Much of what is written and exposed here I have worked against for years.  Today more than any other time in the history of the Church we need pure doctrine – not the occult.  The souls of countless thousand stand to be lost if we stand idely by and do not sound the alarm and stand ready to teach sound doctrine – the Doctrine of Christ.

Ezekiel 33:9  Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

PROPHETIC MOVEMENT in AN UPROAR – Please Forward -Andrew Strom, moderator and founder of:

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Earlier this week we published big chunks of Dennis Cramer’s “Word for 2011” in which he basically tears into a lot of the flakey and dangerous “New Age”-type practices found in today’s Prophetic movement. Well, to my great amazement, I found that the Elijah List had actually published Cramer’s piece as well! And it caused such a storm that they had to remove it after just one day – for “clarification”! But then they re-published it – only slightly changed!

For those who don’t know, the Elijah List is the main email List for the Prophetic movement – publishing the likes of Todd Bentley, Patricia King, Rick Joyner, Bob Jones, etc. It also sells mounds of their books and CD’s. For the Elijah List to publish something that basically refutes all the “Spirit Travel” and “Third Heaven Visitation” stuff is simply unbelievable. It would almost be like the Pope refuting the veneration of Mary!

I don’t know what the Elijah List was thinking, but I’m sure glad they did it. Now maybe there’s a chance that some of their readers will get out from under those dangerous deceptions.

But I am left a bit dazed by it all – because the very ones who have been advocating “spirit travel AT WILL” and “Trance dancing”and ‘Third Heaven visits AT WILL’ are the very ministries that the Elijah List has been promoting all these years!

Here is what the Elijah List founder Steve Schultz wrote after they pulled the first article when it caused such a storm- “Dear Elijah List Readers,  There was a huge number of people who were unclear on a few issues with Dennis Cramer’s word…

The most controversial aspect was the “AT WILL” issue. Apparently, there are some out and about who are teaching that you can transport or go to Heaven “AT WILL” – i.e. whenever you want. This is truly not taught in Scripture. The word “Doctrine” is another word for “teaching.” It’s an untrue teaching that anytime you want, you can go to Heaven or be transported… As soon as Dennis Cramer sends us a more in-depth explanation of the items he listed, we plan to repost my friend’s word.”

ANDREW AGAIN:  Steve – I’m so glad you wrote this, but do you truly realize what you are saying? Don’t you know that Bob Jones and Todd Bentley and Patricia King, etc, are the VERY BIGGEST promoters of all this “AT WILL” deception that you are talking about?

Patricia King even has a whole movement of “Ekstasis” Trance dancing! These guys have entire reams of teaching on how to “visualize” your way into the Third Heaven ‘AT WILL’. They have been promoting it for years. Surely you know this? That’s why your readers are so upset. Dennis Cramer is finally exposing and rebuking this stuff as the ‘New Age’ heresy that it really is.

On January 15, Elijah List reposted the “re-clarified” word from Dennis Cramer on their website. It was a little softer in places, but still it said the following very clearly:

“One cannot go to Heaven like Paul or be transported physically like Phillip simply because they want to or because they feel like it (at will). Teachings like this often crossover into dangerous methods and techniques that resemble New Age, Mysticism, Spiritism or other occult manipulative practices. A Believer cannot and must not force, manipulate, or otherwise attempt to reproduce a sovereign supernatural Bible experience by merely following a method, a series of steps, or worst of all “willing it” to happen.”

In the same re-posted word, Dennis Cramer went on to say-

“• Open Heaven/Spiritual Portals = BAD DOCTRINE • Third Heaven Experiences At Will = BAD DOCTRINE • Going to Heaven At Will to Get Your Gifts = BAD DOCTRINE • Transporting Physically At Will = BAD DOCTRINE • Over-Emphasis on Angels and Specifically Arc-Angels = BAD DOCTRINE • Going into Trances At Will = BAD DOCTRINE • Trance Dancing = BAD DOCTRINE • Hyper-Grace: Christians Do Not Need to Repent of Sin = BAD DOCTRINE”

Well – there goes the Prophetic movement!

Make no mistake about it – Reiki, meditation, tantric sex – these are very powerful mystical experiences that have the capability to delude and deceive those who are involved with it. While many of the health ideas these three doctors share in their books and DVDs are legitimate (exercise, vitamins, and good diet, etc.), these doctors firmly believe in meditation and want to make it widely accepted and embraced and have interwoven this belief into their programs. As Dr. Amen admitted himself, he wants to tell everyone he knows about meditation. Rick Warren and Saddleback are in danger as could be the millions who Rick Warren influences.

We urge all discerning believers to contact their own pastors  and any other pastors or leaders they know to warn them about what is taking place in the name of wellness and fitness in the church. We urge you also to contact ministries who have, in one way or another, either through consent or silence, supported the “new” spirituality that is trying to enter the church and tell them where it leads.  The wellness and fitness aspect of this is just another face of this whole movement that is impacting our entire culture.

In this plea, consider what Roger Oakland stated at the end of Faith Undone:

There are still pastors and churches dedicated to proclaiming the truth. Find out where they are and support them. If you are in a location where this does not seem to be possible, seek out materials that are available from solid Bible-based Christian ministries and hold Bible studies in your homes.

When Jesus returns, He will not find a utopian world filled with peace but one in shambles, unrest, violence, and war for having forsaken the Word of God, the true Gospel, and the One true God. Rather than being a time when He will praise the world for discovering its christ-consciousness, He will come as a Judge and powerful King (p. 230).

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